VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

Coming to a thread to express a negative opinion on a game that seems to have a very poor time to develop vs amount of content ratio with each update is perfectly valid, patron or not.

Staying around just to argue how bad the dev is, i mean, after a certain point that just seems kinda pointless. I mean, what is the end goal you would hope to achieve?

Convince the fans to all abandon the dev?

I mean, good luck with that, but seeks like there are better things to do.

Then again, i think i just described every internet nerd slap fight ever!

dkatryl said:

Coming to a thread to express a negative opinion on a game that seems to have a very poor time to develop vs amount of content ratio with each update is perfectly valid, patron or not.

Staying around just to argue how bad the dev is, i mean, after a certain point that just seems kinda pointless. I mean, what is the end goal you would hope to achieve?

Convince the fans to all abandon the dev?

I mean, good luck with that, but seeks like there are better things to do.

Then again, i think i just described every internet nerd slap fight ever!

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Yeah.

I mean I dislike Hunt Down The Freeman, but once in awhile I'll watch videos on it then type comments about it, shitting on it some more. Or The Star Wars sequels even, been awhile but I used to randomly go to scenes of it and go into the comments to call out the bullshit.

People don't want to admit it but there is a good bit of people in the world that get some liking when talking/listening/etc about something they don't like in which criticisms are repeatedly said.

And at the end of the day who cares? If you don't like it just keep scrolling. Only things I'm tired of seeing here are the repeatedly asked questions "Is the update out yet? or "Has Sophia had sex with ____?".

lockerxx said:

is moving!!! We know how many pages of plot L&P will do in this last update?

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Pretty sure it's considerably less translation work this time around. In .130, Xavier probably made for 50% of the written plot alone. Maybe 2 weeks of P&T if we're lucky. That's just me being optimistic, though. Could very well end up taking 4 weeks for all I know.

Out of curiosity - are there pictures from upcoming content?
I'm kinda afraid to check 3k+ pages back on my own...

palmtrees89 said:

Pretty sure it's considerably less translation work this time around. In .130, Xavier probably made for 50% of the written plot alone. Maybe 2 weeks of T&P if we're lucky. That's just me being optimistic, though. Could very well end up taking 4 weeks for all I know.

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xavier and the kids lesson was also a lot of text

do you think he can keep up the pace of translating 2 pages per day?

ddf said:

Out of curiosity - are there pictures from upcoming content?
I'm kinda afraid to check 3k+ pages back on my own...

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Brother Robert said:

Regardless of what side of the fence your on, "make your own game" is not a valid defense.

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I don't know. I think it would be valuable in ether case for these people to see what's involved with making a game.
I spend about a year learning daz by doing fan art and I'm just at the point my render look good. But the better you get the more effort goes into each shot. More so if you're further editing your renders with PS.

Then their is the coding. Renpy is a great system for VNs if you can work with scripts but you start adding routes and it gets more and more complex. To say nothing of the little things no one thinks of like UI design.

And then there is the writing. It can be incredibly frustrating at times to write. You can spend all day with a blank page or spend a few days on a scene only to have to throw it all out because it's just not working.

Community management is an on going drain. Keeping people informed and reading comments that range from 'you're amazing I love this game. my keyboard is covered in cum!' to 'this is shit, go kill yourself' is something no one enjoys. Keeping everything positive and promoting the game to people is a skill you have to leverage to have any success.

So you have four very different skill sets one of which you might have known well when you started. Meaning not only do you have to do all the work of the other three, you have to spend time learning how to do them.

Anyone who calls a dev with this amount of content created lazy could really use some first hand experience with game development. If you don't like a game or think it's updates are taking to long for you to stay interested, that's perfectly fine. But to spend so much time ragging on the dev again and again. For years in some peoples cases. Well that just show you've got a lot of free time on your hands. So why not take a project on? The worst that can happen is they run into people just like them.

ViperDonkey said:

do you think he can keep up the pace of translating 2 pages per day?

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Possible if he's trying really hard and works 11 hours per day.

when release date??

By the way, does Sofia still wear a ring? about marriage...? In the photo, of course it is, but suddenly, it's not it anymore? hee-hee???

GingerSweetGirl said:

I think it's just a matter of perception, but I'd call the Dylan mistake "big". What you're talking about, errors in the code that make the game unstable or unplayable, sounds "catastrophic" to me from the user end. The Dylan error is magnified because it hasn't been fixed, if it had we would have let it go. A "small" glitch/error to me would be things like a character's body clipping through their clothes, or duplicated text within a scene.

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Nice legs, Redhead!... P s/ Like Sofia's....

when will the update come?

amandaamansss said:

when will the update come?

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Soon

I_Love_Moms said:

Soon

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Is there any evidence that it's recent?

I would guess somewhere in the range of November 10th to November 20th.

yihman1 said:

I would guess somewhere in the range of November 10th to November 20th.

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I hope this prediction turns out to be correct.
because I am very curious about this story.

What a lot of folks don't get about game production is sometimes good quality takes time. Adding more people to the team, or getting better hardware won't always make things come out that much faster.

It's like... If you gather 9 pregnant women together that doesn't mean you can just pop out a baby every single month... The pizza said it should be cooked at 400 degrees for 20 minutes. Can't we just cook it at 4,000 degrees for 2 minutes instead? No...

No one's gonna wait till the end of November? It's no nut november y'all I'm gonna give it a try wew.

yihman1 said:

What a lot of folks don't get about game production is sometimes good quality takes time. Adding more people to the team, or getting better hardware won't always make things come out that much faster.

It's like... If you gather 9 pregnant women together that doesn't mean you can just pop out a baby every single month... The pizza said it should be cooked at 400 degrees for 20 minutes. Can't we just cook it at 4,000 degrees for 2 minutes instead? No...

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I believe most people here don't complain about the development time and the time between updates. The issue is the slow progress in the game. The game has been out for four years, and it has had at least 8-10 updates. It has a lot of content in terms of images. But sex-wise, not even a handjob on the filthy route. That's what, I reckon, is the biggest problem — dead slow progress.