Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of films about suicide
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Sr13 01:31, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- List of films about suicide (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
The list itself highlights the problem: "This is a list of films about suicide, divided between those in which the suicide is the main theme of the and those in which the act of suicide is committed but is not the main theme. " The truth is there simply aren't enough movies trully about suicide (aside from perhaps documentaries) to justify this list. Bulldog123 19:56, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete, pure listcruft. The title is misleading if it includes ones where suicide's not the main theme. In addition, this sure wouldn't be easy to verify... Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 20:00, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per TenPoundHammer. Yet another unmaintainable list. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 20:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Clear violation of WP:NOT#DIR of loosely associated topics. Masaruemoto 04:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Not the place to categorize movies by the happenings in it. Would be a list of loosely associated items WP:NOT Corpx 04:58, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment for info: the category came up for CFD earlier this month and was deleted. Lugnuts 05:48, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep Suicide is a bona fide theme in fiction. Perhaps the list could be salvaged if it was changed into an article discussing Fictional portrayals of suicide from a literary/musical/film criticism view. Wl219 11:42, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Farewell, cruel world. The intolerable amount of listcruft on Wikipedia drove me to this. --Targeman 16:39, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- <snark>Har har har...</snark> Wl219
- Weak delete as is, but keep if the cruft can be removed, keeping those films being about suicide as the major theme or plot device. Bearian 20:20, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as a directory and unmaintanable and without any external links/sources. Fails in many many ways.--JForget 22:38, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Categorize the films where suicide is the main topic and then delete. I've created Category:Films about suicide as a subcat under Category:Films by topic for this purpose. CaveatLectorTalk 01:57, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I've started trying to do this, but need more discriminating opinions to reach a consensus about how to populate the category. CaveatLectorTalk 02:22, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I think we can let common sense be our guide. If the film is about suicide (as a documentary/mockumentary film) or if the plot is significantly driven by a character's suicide/contemplated suicide/attempted suicide then it falls within the category. That would exclude almost all the listed films with only a mere occurrence of suicide or attempted suicide. Wl219 03:46, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I think might be treading on original research ground Corpx 03:48, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- It'd be OR if the article for the film makes some kind of wacko claim that it's about suicide. But if the plot summary makes it clear it's a film about suicide, then it's a film about suicide and it's appropriate for the category. What I'm saying is that for the inclusion criteria, there should be more than a mere mention that a character commits suicide in passing. Wl219 04:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I think might be treading on original research ground Corpx 03:48, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I think we can let common sense be our guide. If the film is about suicide (as a documentary/mockumentary film) or if the plot is significantly driven by a character's suicide/contemplated suicide/attempted suicide then it falls within the category. That would exclude almost all the listed films with only a mere occurrence of suicide or attempted suicide. Wl219 03:46, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - One interpretation is that it's too specific, and the other is that it's too general. Since the two will never find common ground, deletion is necessary.--WaltCip 01:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete lists (including this one) that cannot be externally referenced as a list if they cannot be provably complete. --Scott Davis Talk 08:42, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.