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Jan 12, 2023 6:29 AM
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Damn, Ryu realizes that she is likely not going to make it and asked Bell to leave her behind. This was tough to watch seeing the situation he and Ryu ended up in that dungeon. Both look beaten up but as expected, Bell isn't going to leave her behind.

This was a really tense episode imo, not just for Bell and Ryuu but other party members too. They really gave the strong impression of how dangerous that deep in the dungeon can be with those monsters. Gotta admit though, they really bought out Ryu's personality out this episode.
Jan 12, 2023 6:47 AM
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Vol13 and 14 are really the best and it shows in this episode. Not even JC Staff could mess it up. The sense of despair and exhaustion is absolutely palpable.

Good thing that we got the light hearted bit with the rescue squad early on. Anya looks absolutely comical with her uniform and her small frame.
"Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii

There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov

Jan 12, 2023 6:54 AM
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Well that was a major cliffhanger, just like the last season cliffhanger after cliffhanger.
I hope that won't be the case having the wait a week every time can get annoying.
Bell and Ryu also seem to be in a very bad situation and those skull sheep look pretty scary well let's hope things will work out somehow.
Seem help is also underway.
Jan 12, 2023 7:10 AM
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Constant emotions of dread or wory for the characters.
Seeing them in dire straights that go from bad to worse keeps you on the edge.
It's not hard to predict what happens next in the episode, but it does not take away from sadness and terror of characters witnessing it happen. Quite the contrary. The episode sets hints and then delivers.

Great one, might do a rewatch someday
Jan 12, 2023 7:11 AM
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it was 1 of the best episode i watch in this anime
Jan 12, 2023 7:29 AM
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Cassandra is cancer. Despair this, despair that, being worse than dead weight most of the time. Sheesh! Might as well be on the floor boss' side, getting Haruhime down for the count.
Jan 12, 2023 7:30 AM
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I’ll be back later today when i get time to watch it. Meanwhile, i will say that danmachi is one of my favorite animes.
Jan 12, 2023 7:54 AM
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EX1ST3NC3 said:
Cassandra is cancer. Despair this, despair that, being worse than dead weight most of the time. Sheesh! Might as well be on the floor boss' side, getting Haruhime down for the count.
I know it can be a bit anoying but give her just a tiny bit of slack. Her character is just extremely consistent with the mythological character she's based on of the same name. It cannot be easy to be a person whose accurate prophecies, generally of impending disaster, are not believed. Only Bell believes in her every now and again.
"Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii

There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov

Jan 12, 2023 7:57 AM
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Surely no one will die, right? :)
Jan 12, 2023 8:21 AM
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That healing spell seems to be for nothing; Bell took so much damage in just the first encounter. Bell dun goofed.

I kinda wish we could just keep seeing Bell & Ryu. I don't really care about this 2-headed dragon battle.
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Jan 12, 2023 8:22 AM

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This really was one despairful episode. People falling like pack of cards one after one won't only derail any chances of winning but in worst case surviving this mess too.. though I believe we won't see the worst, it's still Danmachi after all.

Though again looking forward to next week.
Jan 12, 2023 8:22 AM

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I don't know about you, but this seemed to be one of the very best episodes. The sense of struggle and despair are thick, like a heavy coat, with only brief respites/relief. It felt almost like a funeral dirge. Speaking of music, that orchestral score is Wagnerian, so sensitive, graceful, and intertwined with the drama. Maybe it seems so tasty in comparison to other current shows, but damn. It makes this like a Dungeon Opera.

I'm not familiar with the source material but on its own, this is tremendous work. I found myself a little annoyed with the dragon CG, but embraced that staticky, boxy, complexity because it fits. It's ok. Beautiful stuff, my friends. What a time to be alive.
Jan 12, 2023 8:24 AM

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Absolute despair, this shit is insane. Is Haruhime alive?
Jan 12, 2023 8:31 AM

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Brutal episode... .⁠·⁠´⁠¯⁠`⁠(⁠>⁠▂⁠<⁠)⁠´⁠¯⁠`⁠·⁠.
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
Jan 12, 2023 8:40 AM
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you can really feel the intensity of the Deep Floor when Ryuu is stressing about staying alive for at least 5 minutes
Jan 12, 2023 8:43 AM

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Oh my gosh... No other words could describe this episode...
Jan 12, 2023 8:50 AM

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So, their offensive cooldown is dead or her plot armour is too thick?

Jan 12, 2023 9:10 AM
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new waifu alert and her name is Tsubaki

the despair continues

damn hoping that Mikoto and Haruhime are alive
Jan 12, 2023 9:18 AM
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I'm tired of the cliffhangers, it's off my list for the season, I'll watch in binge at the end of the season.
Jan 12, 2023 9:20 AM

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Was hoping to see more of Tsubaki and our party is really in dire need of help.

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Jan 12, 2023 9:26 AM
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Hard going for the Hestia familia
Jan 12, 2023 9:44 AM
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Desesperation is the word for this episode!!!

amazing one more time!!! kekeke
Jan 12, 2023 9:45 AM

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Damn, I hope they can just get out of the dungeon; in general
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Jan 12, 2023 9:47 AM
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really a tragic! :O
Jan 12, 2023 9:53 AM

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The amount of despair in a single episode was distressing. Especially seeing the way Bell was screaming against the Skull Sheep.

And on the other side, the party almost won against the boss monster only for things to go wrong at the last moment.

Jan 12, 2023 9:55 AM

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When you thought the despair would finally start to drop off, it only comes back to gut-punch you with an extra-thick dose of despair.

Bell and Ryu are in pretty bad shape. Even though Bell was able to block off the tunnel to stop the Juggernaut from going after them, he had to deal with another new enemy, the skull sheep, whose agility and the ability to conceal its presence made for a tough fight. Good thing he was able to take it out before he took even more damage to his arm.

With Ryu's guidance, they were able to find a "safe" spot, but what they fought were other adventurers in the area was nothing more than three dead skeletons. Getting five minutes of rest is a luxury that the pair can afford right now due to how tough the enemies are, so I can only hope that they can soldier on until they can finally get help.

Back with Lili's group, their battle has gone from bad to worse. Amphisbaena used the waterfall to crash land, causing everyone to be effected by its attack, mainly being Mikoto, who got thrown underwear and got pounced on by multiple fish enemies. To make matters even more dire, Haruhime took the full force of a flame attack after she pushed a horrified Cassandra out of the way in order to save her.

Once again, we end this episode on a cliffhanger, which despite how often they've been happening, it still does its job really well. One slither of hope is that Tsubaki and her small team are in the dungeon now, so hopefully they can get to the others to help out in the tough fight against the stubborn dragon. Wishful thinking, maybe, but I can't help it given how dire the situation has become. =(
Jan 12, 2023 10:38 AM

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It seems no one can catch a break. Bell is losing his mind in the Deep Floors and the rest of his party are dropping left and right against that dragon. 
People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime.

Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait.

MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol.


Jan 12, 2023 10:51 AM
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I swear, this episode was the bomb! So was the last one, in fact, the whole season has been one of the best I've seen in a long time of Anime as a whole!. I complain a lot about waiting to see what happens after a cliffhanger, but I would go crazy waiting until the end of the season and bingeing - like I'm doing with some others. I did that with season 1, because I the title made me think it was a "not my thing" anime, during my (late) watch of season 2, I caught an episode that made me binge 1, and haven't stopped enjoying DanMachi since. I hope they aren't pulling an old-school Chinese movie thing where everybody dies in the end (I haven't read the Manga or Light Novel), but damn - everything - characters, music, animation, direction, plot movement, pacing, everything is just too cool. Who can blame the girl with "sentinel intelligence" for falling into despair - it's almost taking Bell and the whole familia down! It's just too good.
Jan 12, 2023 10:59 AM
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Holy shit this episode really kept me on the edge of my seat all the way! I think this season is quickly becoming my favorite with the first one
Jan 12, 2023 11:23 AM

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The shit is hitting the fan and people keep throwing more shit at it! Awesome eps!
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Jan 12, 2023 11:24 AM
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Nice to finally see Hephaestus familia's captain Tsubaki be intruduced. Its good that Bell managed to break Ryu out of her sense of doom. Chigusa might not have much of a role within the narrative but her skill with the bow is top notch. The boss using gravity to launch an enhanced AOE attack was pretty cunning of it. The resting place for those dead adventurers sure was a grim reminder to how even the most powerful of adventurers are not immune to death. More importantly maintaining one's mental within it is just as important as their physical state. But this ep showed well not just how sudden tides can turn in battles against the boss but also how lethaly strong the denizens of the deep are compared to the upper floors. Overall a great ep that featured a great balance of action, tension and fear with the latter being shown best in the despair that Bell and his team face in their respective battles.
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Jan 12, 2023 11:27 AM

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Oh fuck no, anyone but Haruhime! 
pretty sure nobody's gonna die but still...
Jan 12, 2023 11:33 AM
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cassandra needs to get her stress levels checked holy shit. such a deadweight and got haruhime KO'd.
Jan 12, 2023 12:02 PM
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I liked the episode. Although I really don't see that happening, it'd be nice for Bell and Ryuu to get together. I would really like to see that.
Jan 12, 2023 12:37 PM
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Ansioso por essa temporada!!!
Jan 12, 2023 1:25 PM
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That was intense!
Jan 12, 2023 1:46 PM

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RIP Haruhime and Mikoto? hope not, hope they all survive in some way or another...
Great episode anyway, epic and tragic at the same time.
Jan 12, 2023 1:55 PM

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doesn't really feel like much happened really.
Jan 12, 2023 2:18 PM

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This episode has delivered with in the main focus ryus personality to help bell.
He really is on his limits everyone there is on the limit with that cliffhanger.
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Jan 12, 2023 2:21 PM

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Danmachi really does need to get praise for anime of the season. Lots of action, suspense, dispair
Jan 12, 2023 3:08 PM

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Holy crap this arc is brutal. Normally repeated switching between multiple perspectives would make things less tense but with a cliffhanger each time it's doing the opposite here. And even if you know help is on it's way it still feels so far off. I'm loving this season.
Jan 12, 2023 3:09 PM
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muito bom, aisha gata e a elfa nao podoe morrer
Jan 12, 2023 3:23 PM
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Get ready to hold your breath, this one was a doozy.
Jan 12, 2023 3:42 PM

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Those skull sheep are pretty spooky.
Jan 12, 2023 4:01 PM
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The battle against Amphisbaena has been awesome and when it was starting to look good things took a turn for the worst when Amphisbaena used a new attack to completely crush the party’s momentum, and in the process it appears Mikoto and Haruhime are dead, but of course I don’t believe that until I see a body lol. It was a really good moment tho, Aisha’s reaction really sold it and I even covered my mouth when Haruhime pushed Lili and Cassandra out of the way. And Cassandra going back to depression mode sucks but I can’t fully blame her, I’m also just biased lol.

Bell and Ryu’s situation isn’t much better, after being attacked by some cool enemies called Skull Sheep (really liked the jumpscare lol) they have to hold out before more enemies spawn, or worse, being the Juggernaut showing up again. I’m kinda surprised it could be stopped by a cave-in but I guess that proves it’s not unbeatable. And also the fact that magic lantern was still lit but the party using it was reduced to skeletons was a bit hard to believe but maybe they just last a long time lol. I also just really liked Bell and Ryu’s moments here, the fact she’s the one that’s the most beat up but is also helping Bell keep his sanity is great, and I’m sure she’ll have even more great moments to come.
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Jan 12, 2023 4:32 PM

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If anything really bad happens to Mikoto I riot
Jan 12, 2023 4:47 PM
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Holy sh*t what an episode! Full of constant emotions and anxiety. Im a bit worried but looks like I’ll have to suffer for 1 week
Jan 12, 2023 5:15 PM

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The amount of hopelessness in this episode is crazy. Every step and moment Bell & Ryu take in the deep floors is nervwrecking while waiting for the next monster to pop out of nowhere. Those Skull Sheeps sure are frightening. Seeing the lively Bell being confused and desperate and losing all hope to the point of almost his mind collapses and as if he almost gives up and not wanting to be an adventurer anymore tells you the dire situation they really are in, all the while Ryu almost lost hope herself trying desparately to cop with it all and encourage Bell to never give up as he is vital to their survival. You can feel her struggle and pain. I also like the other party and how they were fighting with all their might the two-headed-dragon fiercely without fear and whatsoever being all confident they can win if they keep working together only to be showered by even greater despair. Mikoto and Haruhime are supposedly dead and the group finds themselves in a butchered situation and tiggers all kinds of feelings to the point of Ouka and Aisha seems loosing control of themselves and wants revenge. Sure thing this episode is engulfed by suspense that ended in a cliffhanger.

I really like Mikoto's outfit it suits her so well and makes her look badass as well as cute and beautiful.
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Jan 12, 2023 5:21 PM

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EX1ST3NC3 said:
Cassandra is cancer. Despair this, despair that, being worse than dead weight most of the time. Sheesh! Might as well be on the floor boss' side, getting Haruhime down for the count.
Ong, what a fucking annoying character, always making everything worse for everyone, something please kill her or someone beat the shit out of her until she becomes useful asap, deadweight is an understatement




Jan 12, 2023 5:23 PM

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Wait so where did this second ep drop
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